787 vs A350XWB
The Boeing 787 and Airbus A350xwb are commonly compared to each other over the past few years but are they really similar aircraft?
In one sense, yes, they are. Both aircraft make substantial use of CFRP for instance. Boeing makes the fuselage of the 787 as a full “barrel” and Airbus plans to use CFRP panels using an more conventional structure underneath. Both will also use similar engine and engine technologies although Boeing is using a system that eliminates “bleed air” from its systems for the first time while Airbus retains it.
They are both aimed at the medium to long range market although Boeing’s 787-3 (if it ever comes to fruition) is aimed at domestic markets primarily in Japan with a planned range of about 3000 nautical miles maximum. When the introduction of this aircraft was delayed in favor of the 787-8 and 787-9, Japan Air Lines transferred its orders to the 787-8 and All Nippon Airlines reduced its order and transferred the remaining to the 787-8. Ultimately, I suspect this aircraft may be developed to offer trans-Atlantic, US transcontinental and Japanese domestic capability. That would mean a range increase of probably as much as 1000 nautical miles which would still be 1500 or more nautical miles less than other 787 models.
Both were initially introduced as 3 models. Boeing has firmly offered the 787-3/8/9 and Airbus has firmly offered the A350-800/900/1000. However, the variants of each manufacturer do not match up one for one.
The 787-3 and 787-8 will be a bit smaller than the first A350-800 model. Instead, Airbus targeted its A350-800 model to match up against the 787-9. The A350-900 and 1000 more accurately match up against the Boeing 777-200/300 aircraft.
What drove the development of each of these aircraft is more important and shows the difference. Boeing needed a replacement for both the 767 and the 757. Those models were more than 20 years old and had issues with continuing to be capable aircraft for airlines. The 767 was unable to carry cargo competitively with the A330 and A300 Airbus models and its engines were becoming fuel inefficient for many routes. The 757 had morphed to a medium haul / trans-Atlantic model but didn’t quite have the legs to reach Europe except from extreme East Coast destinations.
Boeing already had the 777-200 which filled a gap between its 747-200/400 models and it didn’t need to replace it since the 777/200ER was quite young and it had the 777-200LR coming online shortly. It needed an aircraft that was capable of carrying a passenger load from 230 to nearly 300 with a full cargo load on at least medium range routes of 5000 nautical miles or more.
In addition, airline trunk routes were fracturing so it needed its next aircraft to be capable of flying much longer routes so the new aircraft had to be capable of flying routes from 5000nm to 8000nm efficiently. Something that the 767 wasn’t capable of and the 777 wasn’t very suited to capacity wise for the shorter ranges. So Boeing defined the 787 to fill that gap.
Airbus was faced with a different problem. The A330 was and is still a strong seller and an excellent competitor for the 777-200 on medium range routes. It had the A380 coming online as a competitor to the 747 which left a large gap between the A380 and A330 because airlines had never really bought into the A340 model line. The A340 was an inefficient competitor to the 777-200/300 line of aircraft because it used 4 engines (as opposed to 2 engines) and possessed a fuselage that was slightly too narrow to be stretched for more capacity without other problems cropping up.
What Airbus didn’t have was a real 777 competitor and that’s what it needed. After going through several definitions of the new aircraft, it arrived at the A350xwb. The A350xwb-900/1000 compete directly with the 777-200/300 models in capacity and range. However, where customers are already seeing a deficiency is in cargo capacity.
Although the A350 is not yet completely defined, it appears that while it may have lower costs per available seat mile, the 777 will continue to be able to lift and carry several tons more cargo in addition to its passengers. In real world operations, the two may be very even competitors unless and until Airbus is able to offer higher thrust engines (100K pounds of thrust or better), this deficiency will remain. Currently, Rolls-Royce has shown some willingness to build to that thrust capability (borrowing on their engine technology for the 777) but GE has shown no interest in developing a new engine using GEnx technology to meet the specifications of Airbus’ A350-1000 model leaving a large gap. GE sees such an engine cutting into its current customer base on the 777. Current 777-200LR and 777-300ER models have GE engines capable of 110K and 115K thrust respectively.
Both models promise to be excellent, successful aircraft because they fill needs for each manufacturer’s customers. Both brands needed those models to fill very important places in their lineups. Even airlines see these aircraft as more complimentary than competitors as evidenced by many large airlines ordering both models.
The Boeing 787 promises to be successful with US, European, Japanese and, possibly, Australian airlines. South American airlines will likely follow in 5 to 10 years. This aircraft will serve airlines whose routes are either long and thin or those that have high frequency.
The Airbus A350 will serve routes that are fat and long primarily and will likely be used by airlines based in the Middle East, South East Asia, India, Australia and by some in Europe. This aircraft is more a trunk route airliner that will serve routes with lots of density, low to medium frequency and of 5500nm distance (at the least).
It is notable that Airbus faces an issue that Boeing doesn’t have with the 787 and that is customer base. Nominally, both companies have a healthy order book for each respective aircraft. The 787 has well over 800 orders and the A350 has well in excess of 500 orders. Both have an average of 15 orders per customer even. However, the customer base for the A350 is really quite a bit more narrow than Boeing’s.
Airbus has roughly 505 orders for its A350 aircraft line up and of that, the only truly significant large quantity orders come from a few airlines based in the Middle East or South East Asia. More than half of those orders (284) are attributed to just 13 customers from Africa, the Middle East and South East Asia. Of those 13 customers, 7 customers should be considered as somewhat dubious in light of the present world wide economic climate in the airline industry. Of the remaining 6 customers, 3 airlines and one leasing company (Emirates, Etihad, Qatar and DAE Capital) account for 205 of those orders. The A350 will need to find a wider customer base for all its models to reduce the risk the order book currently has. Those three main airlines are each based in the UAE (United Arab Emirates) and while successful today, have dubious opportunities for their continued growth over time.
Boeing’s order book is stretched more evenly across airlines of the world and on most continents. While Boeing does have some dubious order holders, they are fewer overall and comprise a vastly smaller portion of the order book both percentage-wise and in total orders. Boeing has much less risk in its order book.
Boeing should begin deliveries to customers in the 4th quarter of 2010 or about 10 months from now. With a second production line expected to come online in 2 to 3 years, Boeing is well placed to fill its orders and have enough production slack to fill new orders from major airlines. Within the next 2 years, expect to see the 787-10 defined and design work begun. The 787-10 will likely be a 777-200 competitor in some respects but it also allows Boeing to define a new 777 or replacement model that reaches further upwards in capacity in the future.
Boeing’s next moves are likely to be, in order, the 787-9, the 787-10 and then either a refresh of the 777 model as a next generation enhancement with extensive use of composite materials, new engine technology and likely following a systems approach similar to the 787. If it isn’t a refresh of the 777, it will be a new model to replace the 777 with capacities just above the present 777-200 and finishing with capacities a bit past the current 777-300. A 737 replacement should follow once that 777 issue is nearing production.
Airbus currently has the A330 and plans to continue production for several more years. However, Airbus is due to be left with two serious gaps. First, the gap between the A321 and the A330 which nominally should be filled with a 787 competitor. This is likely where Airbus goes next but not before 2015 or later. Then, Airbus also has a bit of a gap between the A350-1000 and the A380. This gap really isn’t so important for the next 10 years but its one they’ll have to watch since Boeing will be positioned to offer a right-sized aircraft in that market in the form of a 777-refresh, 777 replacement and their about to be introduced 747-8i. After filling the A321/A330 gap, Airbus will likely go to work on their A320 series replacement which, I suspect, will be sized at slightly larger capacities than the current A318/319/320/321 lineup.

Very useful summing up of the new aircraft.
I think re-engine of B737 & A320 will soon become the priority as the competition for these steady earners is heating up. I also think the future is going to be better for medium range smaller planes as oil prices increase and passenger numbers drop.
After all, you are going make more money on a full less efficient small plane vs a half empty more efficient larger aircraft.
Thank you for your comments!
The thing about re-engine programs is that if they ever do happen, they arrive just in time for the next new thing to take over anyway.
Since both need engines with thrust(s) ranging from as little as 20K to 35K, I suspect that engine technology is a good 5 to 6 years away, minimum. Add in a year for airlines to commit to the program and, if they do, add in another 1 to 2 years to engineer and test the new engines and get certification. Now 8 to 9 years have gone by. By then, I think an entire new aircraft will be in development at both companies.
Frankly, with the heat that Embraer and Bombardier are bringing, I wonder if we won’t see new development work start in as little as 3 years with a launch in 5.