CFM Leap56 takes a leap

June 17, 2011 on 1:00 am | In Airline News | No Comments

Virgin America has announced a deal with CFM to supply the CFM Leap56 engine for its Airbus A320NEO orders.  This is a nice launch for CFM and stands in contrast with order A320NEO orders that have listed Pratt PW1100G as their choice of engine.

What’s the Leap56 advantage?  It’s hard to say.  It’s possible that the Pratt & Whitney engine may have more future potential but right now it also has a lot of risk associated with it.  It’s a geared turbo fan that Pratt has really been working on for more than two decades in one form another.  It’s a design that many see risky given its complexity.  If it does turn out to be a robust engine with good lifecycle costs, it may well be the leader going forward.

But right now the CFM Leap56 offers the same performance with great reliability and reduced risk for the owner.  There have been a number of predictions that the Leap56 will be the sale leader in A320NEO sales over the long term.  Right now, we’re a long way away from seeing a sales leader in that aircraft category.

Watch Airbus to see what Boeing does

June 6, 2011 on 1:00 am | In Aircraft Development | No Comments

Airbus has committed itself to the A320NEO series recently and Boeing continues to decide to not decide on what it will do with the 737.  All the while hinting at a new aircraft development for a 737 replacement to enter into service around 2019/2020.   Except that Boeing has also hinted from time to time that a re-engine might be in order while also saying that customers don’t want a re-engine. 

In addition, Airbus will be releasing its configuration for the A350-1000 aka 777 killer in the next few weeks.  Boeing doesn’t believe it quite meets the mark without a new wing and Airbus has said nothing about a new wing.  Right now, on paper, the 777-300ER still beats the A350-1000.  Unless Airbus releases a configuration that causes people to pause and gasp, Boeing will most likely not feel too threatened by Airbus for the time being.

And that’s why I say watch Airbus to see what Boeing does.   Boeing knows it can probably win against Airbus with a 737 replacement in the time frame it is talking about while managing to keep customers interested in the current 737 through incremental improvements that should keep the two aircraft competitive.  I’ve felt that Boeing wants to know what Airbus’ move is on the A350-1000 so it knows where to commit its resources.  If the configuration and definition for the A350-1000 moves it into competitive territory with the 777, Boeing knows it needs to get to work on improving the 777 (an exceptional moneymaker for Boeing presently) in order to not lose those customers for the next 2 decades. 

Boeing likely believes it can cover the 777-200ER territory with a 787-10 (and perhaps an incremental improvement to the -10 as an ER model later).  This leaves it free to preserve the 777-300 in its current configuration or find improvements to the existing design or even design a new aircraft family to fit above 787-10 and finish alongside the 747-8i. 

But what Boeing doesn’t want to do is commit to launching 2 new airplane programs simultaneously.  Boeing already knows what will likely happen if it does that.   

With all of that into consideration, I think that once we know the firm definition for the A350-1000, Boeing will know how to sequence its next airplane programs.  It will be either a 737RS first with a 777 replacement kicked off 3 to 4 years later or a 777 replacement first with a 737 re-engine done simulataneously and a 737 replacement coming 10 to 12 years after the re-engine. 

I strongly believe that Boeing wants to do the former sequence (737 replacement / 777 replacement) because it puts Airbus into a corner.  With this strategy, Boeing probably has an all new line of aircraft using the latest technology spanning from 150 seats to 450 seats while Airbus has the A320NEO and A350 series but with a gap between the A320NEO and A350 being filled by what will be quite the aging aircraft:  the A330.   In fact, there already is a gap, although minor, between the A320 series and the A330 series.  And make no mistake:  The A330 will begin to die in another 2 years or so as a result of the A350 and 787 developments. 

My prediction?  I think Airbus will announce nothing that threatens Boeing’s competitiveness in the 777 models.  Sometime late in the fall or early in the winter while riding on an uptick with the deliveries of the 787 and 747-8i to customers, Boeing will announce a 737 replacement program with a big airline order.  Sometime around 2017 or 2018, we’ll see Boeing announce a replacement for the 777 sized  above the 787-10 and right up alongside the 747-8i.

A Warning Shot

May 12, 2011 on 1:00 am | In Airline Fleets | No Comments

Jon Ostrower has written about a conversation he had with Southwest Airlines VP Operations Coordination Jeff Martin.   Mr. Martin says they need an efficient replacement aircraft for their 200+ 737 Classic aircraft and they need it sooner than 2019/2020 and, no, a re-engined 737 Next Gen does not meet the criteria they have for such a replacement.

Actually, Southwest has two subfleets to think about.  The 737-300/500 fleet and the 717 fleet.  The former because it is just aging and aging quickly and the latter because it isn’t sustainable as a fleet over time since it isn’t being made anymore and obtaining additional aircraft would be difficult at best.

Would Southwest consider another aircraft maker?  Absolutely.  This idea that Southwest wants one fleet type is somewhat silly.  This is an airline with over 500 aircraft and one aircraft type doesn’t fit all situations as well as 2 or 3 fleet types.

I’ll also point out that since Gary Kelly has taken over as CEO, Southwest has embraced a lot of change and they’ve succeeded despite predictions to the contrary.

In addition, I recall Southwest getting a bit lathered up over what they saw regarding the Frontier Q400 fleet when doing their due diligence almost two years ago.  If there is one thing Southwest likes to do, it’s save money.

I think Bombardier products will get a strong look.  I think the CSeries and the Q400 might get looked at quite closely.  Dispatch reliability is going to be a key point, however.  But there are at least 2 cities that SWA operates from in which a fleet of Q400 aircraft could make very profitable bases:  Chicago and Dallas. 

In addition, I think Embraer will have a shot at pitching their aircraft (current and future) and I think Airbus will get its feet in the door as well over the A320NEO.  Thing is, the very fact that it is the A320NEO that Airbus has to offer is what, in my opinion, makes them an unlikely player at SWA.  Southwest doesn’t want a warmed over design to tide them over.  They want revolution over evolution when it comes to efficiency.

Revolution is potentially the CSeries with both enough capacity and range to fill almost all of Southwest’s requirements.  They also have enough seating range to make it an effective aircraft in both the 110 and 130 seat range.  That is going to be a sweet spot for Southwest for some time to come.  Yes, they need an aircraft that will seat 145 to 170 as well (and that aircraft will also need continental range as well) but they’ve got that in a fairly new fleet of 737-700/800 aircraft.   The nice advantage to the CSeries / Boeing approach is being able to have a range of sub-types across a two type fleet.  You get effective 4 needs met with two basic types and doesn’t that approach sound frugal?

Boeing needs to wake up just a bit and get a little more aggressive.  To believe that SWA is a Boeing customer now and for the future ignores a great deal of change when it comes to SWA and its needs.

The A320NEO: Best Seller?

April 9, 2011 on 1:00 am | In Aircraft Development | No Comments

One has to hand it to the Airbus PR machine and COO John Leahy.  Those guys could spin a strike as an innovative development for their aircraft line. 

One of  the latest claims from these fine folks is that the A320NEO is already the best selling commercial aircraft ever.   Not so fast.  While the NEO has racked up some good orders, much of what Airbus is counting as orders are actually just memorandums of understanding.   They are not firm orders in the sense of what Boeing would count as an order.  But it does have some good momentum and that’s great for that product.  It’s getting the kind of updates it really needs and that’s good for anyone operating the A320 series aircraft.

Yes, there is rampant speculation that the NEO could have 600 orders by this summer’s airshow in Paris but let’s see if that develops first before we proclaim world domination.

Mr. Leahy also puts forth the idea that because the NEO has the potential to last until 2030, Boeing will ultimately have to decide to do a 737 re-engine itself.  He also has decided that technology won’t be advanced enough for a new aircraft (Boeing or Airbus) until far past 2020, the date Boeing says it could come up with something to replace the 737.

Coming up with a better, more efficient airliner is a matter of engineering, not developing unknown technologies.  If there is a business case that funds the new aircraft development, then the aircraft can be built.  If anything, Airbus’ decision to do the NEO actually advances Boeing’s business case for doing a new development.  Why?  Because Airbus’ adoption of the CFM LEAP 56 and Pratt & Whitney GTF engines will encourage those companies to mature their products faster, not slower.  The faster those engines mature, the more ready they are for a newly developed 737 replacement.

Mr. Leahy thinks Boeing will re-engine.  I think Boeing will do a new development.  In fact, I think as the case for a new development gets stronger, Boeing may well pull in its date that it could be done by to as early as 2018 or just 7 years from now.  I think John Leahy desperately wants Boeing to keep the 737 because it allows the Airbus to remain competitive.  Most independent observers feel the Airbus A320NEO only manages to deliver trip costs that are equal to Boeing’s current 737, not exceed them.   If Boeing can deliver a 20%+ improvement on trip costs with a new family of aircraft in a timely manner, it clobbers Airbus’ product line right out of the door and Boeing won’t promise what it can’t deliver.

There is one thing about Airbus that really annoys me and, in my opinion, causes trouble in the aviation world and that is its bombastic claims.  I get rather tired of tossing cold water at a company that is actually producing a great, competitive product simply because they cannot be content to be a world player in the aviation world and desire to continually proclaim themselves the World’s Greatest Ever.

Pratt & Whitney’s Geared TurboFan

April 1, 2011 on 1:00 am | In Aircraft Development, Airline News | No Comments

Pratty & Whitney has done pretty well this week.  First off, they’ve won the IndiGo order for the Airbus A320NEO and that is a big order over time.   150 aircraft is nothing to sneeze at.  P&W already is in development on this engine for Bombardier (CSeries) and Mitsubishi’s regional jet.  In addition, COMAC has now expressed interest in this engine for its 919 developement. 

At first glance, P&W appears to be getting interest from the little knowns but that’s simply because they’re the ones with new aircraft in development.  The Airbus A320NEO adds legitimacy and the order for IndiGo’s A320NEOs solidifies it.

It does strike me that airline industry appears attracted to the perceived greater promise of the GTF.  When does the GE/Snecma CFM LEAP 56 engine start gaining interest?  It’s noticeably silent in that area so far.

Freedom to Change: A320NEO

March 18, 2011 on 1:00 am | In Airline Fleets, Airline News | No Comments

The perceived momentum that the A320NEO has is the subject of  a lot of speculation for the past month.  One comment getting repeated early and often by Airbus is that airlines don’t necessarily have a right to convert existing orders for 1st generation A320 class aircraft over to the A320NEO targeted for delivery sometime in 2016. 

Indeed, the orders it has garnered so far has been part of a larger orders for a mix between the 1st generation and NEO versions.   There are a few things worth remembering here.  First of all, 2016 is far enough in the future that airlines are only just approaching the time in which they would consider such purchases in most cases.  Second, Airbus’ really firm order for this aircraft is, so far, only from Virgin America.  Other orders are under a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) which can remain quite fluid in terms of details.

Airbus needs the NEO to be successful right out of the gate.  Their stumbling around on the A350 is still firm in the minds of many airlines and what they’re proposing in the NEO is actually quite similar in approach to their first proposals for the A350.  If they garner enough orders, legitimacy ensues and they avoid criticism.  They also don’t want to kill their momentum on the A320 either.  The development for that 1st generation of aircraft is paid for and every aircraft they push out the door and into the hands of a customer embodies a lot of profit. 

It’s a delicate dance they have to perform for the next 12 to 18 months and keeping customers entrenched in the 1st generation A320 allows them to earn profit to pay for their other programs in development such as the A400 and A350 as well as keep face over the A380 which, at this point, appears doomed to be an unprofitable airliner. 

Speaking of the A380, one of those recent A320NEO orders includes the cancellation of 10 A380 aircraft as well.  ILFC has decided to pass on that airliner and stock up on A320 aircraft instead.  That is a smart decision for the lessor. 

If anyone believes that airlines will be forced into making new orders if they want the NEO version, they’re kidding themselves.  Airlines transfer orders from one aircraft type to another all of the time and neither Airbus nor Boeing would ever want to appear to not being cooperative with the airlines.  Keeping airlines in their camp is extremely important and not being flexibile is one way to encourage a customer to look at a competitors offerings.

John Leahy of Airbus predicts as many as 500 firm orders by this year’s Paris air show.  It is possible but I think we’ll see maybe orders for 200 to 300 aircraft and perhaps less than firm orders for another 300 by that time.  500 firm orders would be pretty impressive and I suspect it would drive Boeing crazy as well.

The 737 Replacement

January 28, 2011 on 1:00 am | In Aircraft Development | No Comments

Boeing’s CEO, James McNerney, reiterated Boeing’s view that re-engining the 737 even in light of Airbus’ A320NEO announcement is not the pathway to success for Boeing.  They continue to believe that if a new 737 replacement is forthcoming in the 2019/2020  timeframe, customers will wait.  I agree.

However, if customers are asked to wait until 2025, I’m not so sure.  There is only so much more additional performance that Boeing can get from either the airframe or the engine on the 737.  Let’s not forget that, in many respects, the current 737 lineup continued to perform well against the A320 in part because of the development of the winglets and the evolving refinement of the CFM engine.  Additional gains are going to be increasingly difficult to find.

Also of concern is McNerney’s announcement that research and development will be going down over the next couple of years and that they intend to cut back on some of their engineering resources which are extraordinarily high (say McNerney) at present while retaining their core capability.   While I understand the cravings for normalcy, this worries me. 

To really get a 737 replacement out in the 2019/2020 timeframe, it’s time to get started now.  You have effectively just 8 years to redesign another technically innovative aircraft that will compete for 20 years or more.  Schedule is more critical in accomplishing this than budget is.  It takes time to design innovative technology and implement it into a product that must be 99% reliable “out of the box”.   Boeing’s schedule for doing so is, in some respects, already eroding.

I think there is more time to consider options for the 777 line than there is for the 737 replacement.  Enough airlines and, in particular, 737 customers have signaled the very strong desire for a better airplane. To act as if you have all the time in the world or even little competition for these people is a bad idea.  Even Southwest acknowledges that they can handle transitioning to a new type and they don’t mean just transitioning to a new Boeing. 

There are 3 SuperLegacy airlines who’ll be shopping in the next 1 to 2 years for fleet replacement and 2 LCC carriers who need to find new efficiency gains in their fleet (Southwest and Ryanair) who could literally place enough orders to pay for the 737 replacement.   Having something that will significantly beat the A320NEO in the stated time frame that also provides for future efficiency and a product line capable of lasting 20 years is almost a necessity rather than something to study for another 2 years.

The 737 replacement won’t be an evolution of the 737.  It will be much more a revolution for single aisle aircraft much as the 787 is for medium capacity, twin aisle aircraft.   Furthermore, I think you would want to have that program on firm footing and about to produce new aircraft as you begin to enter into engaging on a 777 evolution or replacement later in the decade.

So what’s the hold up?

Virgin America orders 60

January 19, 2011 on 1:00 am | In Airline Fleets | No Comments

Virgin America has announced its intentions to order 60 new Airbus A320 aircraft with 30 being the A320NEO (New Engine Option) with deliveries taking place until 2019.  That means Virgin America will triple the size of its fleet (or more) over the next 8 years. 

While VA already signaled that they planned to buy 40 new aircraft, an additional 20 reflects a certain confidence that it is going to be earning solid profits going forward.  I’m sure that some of the new aircraft (probably the last ones) will replace some original aircraft in this scheme but it reflects a plan for heavy growth between now and the end of the decade.

Let’s put that growth in perspective.  jetBlue has about 160 aircraft presently serving 63 destinations after being in business for about 11 years.  In that fleet, there are about 115 A320 aircraft (with no orders on the books) and 45 Embraer E-190 aircraft (with an additional 60 aircraft).  I use jetBlue as an example because they are somewhat similar airlines with similar service products. 

So, Virgin America thinks it can grow its mainline fleet to about the same size as jetBlue over about the same period of time.   However, jetBlue got to its size in part by using the E-190s to “feed” traffic into their system from smaller destinations.  This would seem to imply that VA will have to think about a similar strategy. 

I suspect VA will start looking at how to build its network around its focus regions.  There is some opportunity on the West Coast but I think they’ll have to look to feed their system in other places as well.  Places such as DFW, Chicago and on the East Coast into New York City and Washington D.C.

Why order now?  Well, Virgin America is solidly in the Airbus camp and now they know what Airbus will be doing with its product line for the next 10 to 15 years.  With that knowledge in hand, it was an opportune time to make that order since Airbus will be very interested in getting airlines onboard with their decision to re-engine the A320 series.  In other words, they probably got a good deal. 

Why the A320NEO?  That goes to efficiency.  Again, VA knows what Airbus’ strategy will be for the next decade and a half and that means they know what kind of efficiency will be offered.  It only makes sense to get the most fuel efficient aircraft possible when competing here in the United States.  Even those that aren’t NEO aircraft will give VA an advantage in that they’ll be new engines with the latest upgrades available and that translates into money saved against the competition.

And they get one more advantage:  They’re at the head of the line when it comes to other potential buyers in the United States such as Delta or United airlines.   Virgin will be receiving the best, most efficient aircraft available as soon as or even sooner than most of its competition.  American Airlines has no new plans for aircraft other than to keep taking on 737-800s at present.  So on VA’s transcontinental flights, it will likely have the most fuel efficient aircraft available and having that advantage in that competitive marketplace means a greater chance of profitability and competitive advantage when it comes to fares.

Virgin has 2 or 3 years to go when it comes to considering how to feed its network with smaller aircraft.  I wouldn’t look for an order in that area for some time to come.  However, when they do start looking, I suspect the Bombardier CS series will be strong contenders for that airline if VA selects the new Pratt & Whitney GTF engines since Bombardier is offering a similiar engine on that aircraft product line.

Delta wants jets – lots of them

January 16, 2011 on 1:00 am | In Airline Fleets | 8 Comments

It has been reported loudly that Delta is poised to issue an RFP (request for proposal) for as many as 200 jets and this is an order no manufacturer wants to lose.   The rumour comes just days after a record breaking Airbus order from IndiGo of India.

At this point, it’s still rumour but this one strikes me as pretty much dead on.   Delta has a huge fleet (720 aircraft with about 40 orders in place which include the deferred NWA order for the 787) and quite a few of those aircraft need to be replaced now or in the immediate future. 

Delta has the Northwest fleet comprised of the very old DC-9-5o, MD-88, MD-90, 757, 747 and some older Airbus equipment.  The Boeing fleet from Delta’s legacy side isn’t quite as old but there are some 757s and 767s in need of replacement as well.  Considering the widely varying fleet, it would come as no surprise that an replacement order is due.

Oil prices and future fuel prices will also drive the need for this order sooner than later if Delta’s goal of a consistent operating profit is to be realized. 

Pundits think this is Boeing’s to lose and I disagree.  Richard Anderson, CEO of Delta, has much more history with Northwest and he is no Airbus hater.  This will be an extremely heated competition and I will say that if Boeing were to lose this order or a significant portion of it, that will sting Boeing and its product line for years to come.

The prime driver for selection is going to be based on a number of items.  First and foremost, trip costs for aircraft to serve a particular grouping of routes.  We’ll see orders for single aisle aircraft to serve what I would call non-transcontinental routes.  In today’s world, that would be the Airbus A319 and Boeing 737-700.   Having trans-continental capability in the aircraft would be a plus but these aircraft are going to serve the focus cities of the airline with routes stretching out from the cities but not across the country.   The mission that the MD-88s, MD-90s, Airbus A319s and Boeing 737-700/800s are serving today.

The A319s are brand new and so are the Boeing 737-700s/800s.  This is going to be about replacing the McDonnell Douglas fleet.

Then there is a need for the larger trans-continental capable aircraft that remain single aisle serving longer trunk routes that won’t justify a widebody.  Currently, the Airbus A320 and Boeing 757 are serving those routes.  The A320’s arrived in early 1990’s and the 757s date from the early 1980s to the late 1980s.  The options for replacement here are the Airbus A320/321 and the Boeing 737-800 and 737-900ER.    Neither aircraft actually “replaces” a 757 which has great range and great payload.  I don’t think the A320s are going anywhere yet so this will probably involve a 757 replacement and they (Delta) may or may not want it to harmonize with their existing A320s.

Then there are the 767s.  Some are getting old and some are quite new still.  Delta needs an aircraft stretching between what a 757-300 offers and an A330-300 offers.  The 787 fits this and the fact that Delta has deferred its legacy NWA order for these makes me think that these aircraft won’t be candidates for replacement.

The 747s are pretty old and frankly I don’t think these we very well cared for either.  They need to be replaced and I do think we’ll see orders to do this on these aircraft.  None really serve routes that demand 4 engines so I think we’ll see a replacement oriented around 2 engines.

I think it’s anyone’s guess on the single aisle orders.  Airbus will fight like crazy to win this order with their A320NEO options and Boeing may well have to announce a 737 replacement at a great price to win it back.   Boeing should actually have great incentive to get going on the 737 replacement if Delta is truly interested.  With Delta, Southwest and, potentially, Ryanair all wanting a better 737, there is an exceptionally strong business case to get going on this.

If Boeing doesn’t offer a better 737 in this, I think the order goes to Airbus.

As for the 757/767 replacements . . . well, I’d give the edge to Boeing.  I think the 787 *is* a good answer for these aircraft.  They offer the right amount of extra capacity for growth, long haul capability, extremely high efficiency and flexibility.  I do think it possible that an order might be mixed between the A330 and 787 unless Boeing gets off its duff and gets that 787-9 into production.  The 787-9 is the A330 killer.

Since I don’t think the A330s are going anywhere, I don’t see much opp0rtunity for Airbus’ A350 in this mix.  It’s deliveries are too far off and the A330s just don’t need to be replaced for a long time.

I think Delta’s large widebody strategy is likely going to be a mix of 777-200s and the 777-300ER to replace the 747s.  They already have a fleet of 777-200LR with GE engines so I think they’ll order 777-300ERs with GE engines to replace those 747s.  It will do everything the 747 will do only more efficiently.  I do *not* think the 747-8i will enter into this order.  Delta doesn’t need the capacity and the 777-300ER will serve all the routes the 747 is currently serving with no problem.  The A350-1000 is far too far off and its ability to perform is simply way too unknown for this to be serious contender at Delta.

I do not think that Bombardier or Embraer will enter into this order at all.  They just don’t have a product that meets the needs of an airline like Delta very well at all.

Don’t expect an order announcement for about a year.  Delta will let the manufacturers fight it out with best and final offers for quite some time and it will take time itself to do a detailed analysis.   But I can’t wait to hear their decision.

Southwest Airlines and the 737

December 18, 2010 on 1:00 am | In Airline News | 2 Comments

Southwest made its intention to purchase the 737-800 official a few days ago and while no one is surprised, it is gratifying to hear it has been made official.  This will be a good choice for SWA going forward and it would appear that their first deliveries in 2012 will be 20+ of the -800.  Gary Kelly has said that that is too small a fleet and indicated that about 80 in the fleet would be about right.  These new aircraft will be replacements for SWA’s older 737-300 aircraft rather than in addition to them.  However, the greater size of the 737-800 means that there will be significant capacity growth in 2012.

Interestingly enough, SWA started advertising for an ETOPS manager several days ago and *lots* of people noticed that.  ETOPS will be necessary for SWA to serve Hawaii.  Just a month ago, I wrote about SWA and Hawaii HERE.  Apparently all of the deliveries in 2012 will be ETOPS equipped aircraft so I think that my thoughts on SWA starting a Hawaii route in 4 to 5 years from now is a touch off the mark.

Instead, I’d say we’ll probably be looking at SWA starting routes to Hawaii in at little as 3 years.  They still have to get the aircraft and they still have to learn how to maintain that ETOPS fleet and they also have to figure out how to do the flights and from what cities should they be flown. 

Gary Kelly, CEO of Southwest, also made an interesting comment or two about the 737 and a new engine option and/or replacement for that aircraft.  Kelly rightly points out that Boeing is talking about having something for its customers in 10 years and comments that: “When you talk about something that’s 10 years from now, that’s not a solution, that’s an idea.” 

I couldn’t agree more. 

The Airbus A320NEO isn’t going to be a 737 killer by any stretch.  In that respect, Boeing doesn’t have much to worry about.  But Gary Kelly is right, Boeing hasn’t got anything on the table.  The next generation 737s started to roll out of the factory in 1996 and that isn’t all that long ago if we were talking about a new aircraft.  But the next generation 737 line weren’t “new” aircraft.  They were evolutions of the original designs. 

It’s true that engine technology is needed but nobody is really driving that technology all that much so far.  Both Airbus and Boeing continue to look at new engines as more an annoyance than a need.   The A320NEO isn’t a Boeing 737 killer but a new single aisle short to medium haul aircraft from Boeing is most definitely an A320NEO killer. 

It concerns me that all we’ve heard from Boeing is that their customers aren’t asking for new engines because it’s clear that airlines aren’t asking just for new engines but new airplanes.  And Boeing is behaving a bit too arrogant with respect to their customer base in my opinion.  I wasn’t much of a fan of the Bombardier CS300 so far but now I kind of hope it makes it and it’s a bit of a Boeing killer. 

If Southwest wants a new, efficient (as possible) airliner, it’s time to get to work.  Because of Southwest wants it, I guarantee you that every large operator of the 737 wants it too.  With fuel prices as high as they are and due to be higher in the future, even a 10 to 15 percent efficiency gain is something an airline can’t afford to ignore or defer.

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